Wizardius Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Zgłoś Share Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Witam. Mam trochę ważnych rzeczy na 2 dyskach twardych i chciałbym sprawdzić, czy z dyskami wszystko gra (troche lat już mają). Moglibyście polecić jakiś program do sprawdzenia, który wypluje jakiś log, którym będę mógł się z wami podzielić w celu weryfikacji, czy wszystko gra? PS. Nie wiem czy bardziej nie pasuje do działu "Programy", jak coś to przepraszam za kłopot Link do komentarza Udostępnij na innych stronach More sharing options...
yojc Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Zgłoś Share Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 To, czego potrzebujemy to raport SMART. Do sprawdzenia np. programem CrystalDiskInfo. Link do komentarza Udostępnij na innych stronach More sharing options...
Wizardius Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Autor Zgłoś Share Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Spoiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CrystalDiskInfo 6.8.2 (C) 2008-2016 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 10240] (x64) Date : 2016/06/14 18:23:05 -- Controller Map ---------------------------------------------------------- + ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA] - SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device + ATA Channel 1 (1) [ATA] - ST3160815AS ATA Device + Standardowy podwójny kontroler PCI IDE [ATA] - ATA Channel 0 (0) - ATA Channel 1 (1) + Standardowy podwójny kontroler PCI IDE [ATA] + ATA Channel 0 (0) - HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22LS30 ATA Device - ATA Channel 1 (1) - Kontroler miejsc do magazynowania firmy Microsoft [SCSI] - DAEMON Tools Lite Virtual SCSI Bus [SCSI] -- Disk List --------------------------------------------------------------- (1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ : 1000,2 GB [0/0/0, pd1] (2) ST3160815AS : 160,0 GB [1/1/0, pd1] - st ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model : SAMSUNG HD103SJ Firmware : 1AJ10001 Serial Number : S246J9FB107669 Disk Size : 1000,2 GB (8,4/137,4/1000,2/1000,2) Buffer Size : 32767 KB Queue Depth : 32 # of Sectors : 1953525168 Rotation Rate : 7200 RPM Interface : Serial ATA Major Version : ATA8-ACS Minor Version : ATA8-ACS version 6 Transfer Mode : ---- | SATA/300 Power On Hours : 14608 godzin Power On Count : 3610 razy Temperature : 34 C (93 F) Health Status : dobry Features : S.M.A.R.T., APM, AAM, 48bit LBA, NCQ APM Level : 0000h [OFF] AAM Level : FE00h [OFF] Drive Letter : C: E: F: G: H: -- S.M.A.R.T. -------------------------------------------------------------- ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name 01 100 100 _51 000000000021 Liczba błędów odczytu 02 252 252 __0 000000000000 Średnia wydajność dysku 03 _70 _69 _25 000000002412 Czas do "rozkręcenia" talerzy dysku 04 _97 _97 __0 000000000E08 Ilość cykli start/stop 05 252 252 _10 000000000000 Ilość realokowanych sektorów 07 252 252 _51 000000000000 Liczba błędów pozycjonowania 08 252 252 _15 000000000000 Średnia wydajność podczas pozycjonowania 09 100 100 __0 000000003910 Czas pracy dysku 0A 252 252 _51 000000000000 Liczba prób uruchomienia osi napędowej dysku 0B 252 252 __0 000000000000 Liczba prób kalibracji 0C _97 _97 __0 000000000E1A Ilość włączeń dysku BF 100 100 __0 000000000004 Częstotliwość występowania błędów spowodowanych wstrząsem C0 252 252 __0 000000000000 Ilość wyłączeń spowodowanych odcięciem zasilania C2 _64 _55 __0 002D000E0022 Temperatura dysku C3 100 100 __0 000000000000 Częstotliwość występowania "błędów w locie" C4 252 252 __0 000000000000 Liczba operacji realokacji C5 252 252 __0 000000000000 Liczba sektorów niestabilnych (oczekujących na remapowanie) C6 252 252 __0 000000000000 Ilość nie naprawionych sektorów C7 100 100 __0 000000000002 Liczba błędów CRC podczas pracy w trybie Ultra DMA C8 100 100 __0 000000000066 Liczba błędów zapisu DF 252 252 __0 000000000000 Ilość obciążeń spowodowanych operacjami odczytu, zapisu, pozycjonowania E1 100 100 __0 000000000E24 Ilość cykli obciążenia -- IDENTIFY_DEVICE --------------------------------------------------------- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 000: 0040 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000 010: 5332 3436 4A39 4642 3130 3736 3639 2020 2020 2020 020: 0000 FFFF 0050 3141 4A31 3030 3031 5341 4D53 554E 030: 4720 4844 3130 3353 4A20 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 4000 2F00 050: 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110 060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000 070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 1706 0000 004C 0040 080: 01FF 0028 746B 7F69 4123 7469 BC41 4123 407F 004A 090: 004A 0000 FFFE 0000 FE00 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 100: 6DB0 7470 0000 0000 0000 0000 4000 0000 5002 4E92 110: 0460 2EDF 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 401C 120: 401C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 0000 130: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 140: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 150: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0002 0000 170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000 210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1C20 0000 0000 220: 0000 0000 101F 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0400 0000 0000 0000 0000 240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 7FA5 -- SMART_READ_DATA --------------------------------------------------------- +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F 000: 10 00 01 2F 00 64 64 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 26 010: 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 23 00 46 45 12 020: 24 00 00 00 00 00 04 32 00 61 61 08 0E 00 00 00 030: 00 00 05 33 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 2E 040: 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 24 00 FC FC 00 050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 32 00 64 64 10 39 00 00 00 060: 00 00 0A 32 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 32 070: 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 00 61 61 1A 080: 0E 00 00 00 00 00 BF 22 00 64 64 04 00 00 00 00 090: 00 00 C0 22 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 02 0A0: 00 40 37 22 00 0E 00 2D 00 00 C3 3A 00 64 64 00 0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 32 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 0C0: 00 00 C5 32 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 30 0D0: 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 36 00 64 64 02 0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C8 2A 00 64 64 66 00 00 00 00 0F0: 00 00 DF 32 00 FC FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E1 32 100: 00 64 64 24 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DC 23 00 5B 170: 03 00 01 00 02 99 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF -- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ---------------------------------------------------- +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F 000: 10 00 01 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 19 00 00 00 00 020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 030: 00 00 05 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 33 040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 0F 00 00 00 00 050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 060: 00 00 0A 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 00 070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 090: 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 00 0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 00 00 00 00 00 0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C0: 00 00 C5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 00 0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 00 00 00 00 00 0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F0: 00 00 DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E1 00 100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3B ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (2) ST3160815AS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model : ST3160815AS Firmware : 3.AAC Serial Number : 9RA01C6K Disk Size : 160,0 GB (8,4/137,4/160,0/160,0) Buffer Size : 8192 KB Queue Depth : 32 # of Sectors : 312581808 Rotation Rate : Nieznany Interface : Serial ATA Major Version : ATA/ATAPI-7 Minor Version : ---- Transfer Mode : ---- | SATA/150 Power On Hours : 23637 godzin Power On Count : 6236 razy Temperature : 40 C (104 F) Health Status : dobry Features : S.M.A.R.T., 48bit LBA, NCQ APM Level : ---- AAM Level : ---- Drive Letter : D: -- S.M.A.R.T. -------------------------------------------------------------- ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name 01 111 _88 __6 000004C759BD Liczba błędów odczytu 03 _98 _97 __0 000000000000 Czas do "rozkręcenia" talerzy dysku 04 _86 _86 _20 00000000387C Ilość cykli start/stop 05 100 100 _36 000000000000 Ilość realokowanych sektorów 07 _87 _60 _30 000025514859 Liczba błędów pozycjonowania 09 _74 _74 __0 000000005C55 Czas pracy dysku 0A 100 100 _97 000000000000 Liczba prób uruchomienia osi napędowej dysku 0C _94 _94 _20 00000000185C Ilość włączeń dysku BB 100 100 __0 000000000000 Zgłoszone nienaprawialne błędy BD 100 100 __0 000000000000 High Fly Writes BE _60 _48 _45 000028270028 Temperatura "przepływu powietrza" C2 _40 _52 __0 001100000028 Temperatura dysku C3 _66 _60 __0 000008B465C8 Częstotliwość występowania "błędów w locie" C5 100 100 __0 000000000000 Liczba sektorów niestabilnych (oczekujących na remapowanie) C6 100 100 __0 000000000000 Ilość nie naprawionych sektorów C7 200 195 __0 000000000059 Liczba błędów CRC podczas pracy w trybie Ultra DMA C8 100 253 __0 000000000000 Liczba błędów zapisu CA 100 253 __0 000000000000 Częstotliwość występowania błędów "Data Address Mark" -- IDENTIFY_DEVICE --------------------------------------------------------- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 000: 0C5A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000 010: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 3952 4130 3143 364B 020: 0000 4000 0004 332E 4141 4320 2020 5354 3331 3630 030: 3831 3541 5320 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 0000 2F00 050: 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110 060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000 070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 0502 0000 0048 0040 080: 00FE 0000 346B 7D01 4023 3469 3401 4023 407F 0000 090: 0000 FEFE FFFE 0000 D000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 100: 9EB0 12A1 0000 0000 0000 0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 110: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0002 120: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0009 9EB0 130: 12A1 9EB0 12A1 2020 0002 02B6 0002 008A 3C06 3C0A 140: 0000 07C6 0100 0800 1314 1200 0002 0080 0000 0000 150: 00A0 0202 0000 0404 0000 0000 0000 0000 1B00 000B 160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 220: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 9DA5 -- SMART_READ_DATA --------------------------------------------------------- +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F 000: 0A 00 01 0F 00 6F 58 BD 59 C7 04 00 00 00 03 03 010: 00 62 61 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 32 00 56 56 7C 020: 38 00 00 00 00 00 05 33 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 030: 00 00 07 0F 00 57 3C 59 48 51 25 00 00 00 09 32 040: 00 4A 4A 55 5C 00 00 00 00 00 0A 13 00 64 64 00 050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 00 5E 5E 5C 18 00 00 00 060: 00 00 BB 32 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BD 3A 070: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BE 22 00 3C 30 28 080: 00 27 28 00 00 00 C2 22 00 28 34 28 00 00 00 11 090: 00 00 C3 1A 00 42 3C C8 65 B4 08 00 00 00 C5 12 0A0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 10 00 64 64 00 0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 3E 00 C8 C3 59 00 00 00 00 0C0: 00 00 C8 00 00 64 FD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 32 0D0: 00 64 FD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 AE 01 00 5B 170: 03 00 01 00 01 36 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 180: 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 03 02 02 02 03 03 02 03 00 190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 50 F8 D7 03 00 00 00 00 1A0: 01 00 C5 C5 54 19 1C 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B0: 00 00 00 00 50 F8 D7 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C0: 02 00 01 00 00 00 59 00 00 00 3F 7B AF 15 04 00 1D0: 00 00 DE E7 14 00 00 00 00 00 55 5C 00 00 00 00 1E0: 55 21 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8A -- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ---------------------------------------------------- +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F 000: 0A 00 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 14 00 00 00 00 020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 030: 00 00 07 1E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 61 00 00 00 00 050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 060: 00 00 BB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BD 00 070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BE 2D 00 00 00 00 080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 090: 00 00 C3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 00 0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 00 00 00 00 00 0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C0: 00 00 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 00 0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 26 Bez zadnych skanów, po prostu uruchomiłem program, skopiowałem log do schowka i prosze. Jest git? O to chodziło? Trzeba coś z dyskiem robić? ;d Link do komentarza Udostępnij na innych stronach More sharing options...
Sevard Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 Zgłoś Share Napisano Czerwiec 14, 2016 O to chodziło. Pierwszy dysk (Samsung) - 2 błędy spowodowane wstrząsem, dwa błędy CRC i trochę błędów odczytu oraz zapisu, ale przy tym czasie życia dysku nic, czym trzeba by się przejmować. Drugi dysk (Seagate) - 89 błędów CRC, co teoretycznie może wskazywać na problemy z taśmą sygnałową, dobrze by było za jakiś czas sprawdzić odczyty raz jeszcze. Z innych rzeczy - ten dysk ma trochę za ciepło, warto by było zapewnić mu nieco lepsze warunki pracy. Generalnie - jeśli nie masz jakichś dziwnych problemów z kompem, to wygląda to OK, jeśli takie problemy są, to warto sprawdzić taśmy sygnałowe (tak jak pisałem - błędów CRC nie ma dużo, ale czasem pojedyncze błędy tego typu też są irytujące). Link do komentarza Udostępnij na innych stronach More sharing options...